doug k replied: "Using good judgment has never been a strong point for most of us with Bipolar Disorder."
Fondy Shotgun 28 replied: "I am bi-polar, and I lost my job of 15 years because of my illness about 5 years ago, and as of right now I am having a difficult time with my present job because of my bi-polar + paranoid schizophrenia,hearing customers talking trash about me behind my back, or talking in code in front of me;all because I take my job greeting customers positively seriously.(I work at a supermarket.) All I try to do is to pray to Heavenly Father that this crisis,like all others, will pass with time...
I don't know too much about Lamictal,but give it a chance to work. It usually takes about 6-8 week before any long-term medication starts to be fully effective. Also, keep seeing your therapist on a regular basis. That can help you out tremendously... but only if you let them help you. If you don't, the cycle will never stop-in fact, it'll pick up speed & fly out of control,and you will crash-hurting yourself, and possibly others along the way!
I know where you are. I'm taking Zoloft for my bi-polar, and Abilify for my para-schizo disorder, and they've helped me, but talking with my counselor(and my wife) has helped me out the most. I really don't know where I'd be w/o Jim & Susan in my life!
So keep taking your meds, keep seeing your counselor, and don't give up on yourself! Good Luck & God Bless!!"
Bipolar Moms and Moms To Be: How did/do you deal with bipolar meds while pregnant? I want to have a baby SO bad, but I want to go about this the RIGHT way. I am on Lithium and Lamictal (Lamotragine) and I'm a smoker. My first goal is to stop smoking! I'm going to thedoc in a few days to try Chantix. Hopefully with that and motivation I'll succeed soon.
Next is the meds. I understand that I shouldn't take Lithium AT ALL during pregnancy, and that I can take Lamictal at small doses after the 1st trimester if the benifits outweigh he risks (I got this info from an OB/GYN when I got pregnant while on Lamictal. Ended in miscarraige at 6 weeks).
I want to know your experience with meds while pregnant. Also, what did you do to deal with your bipolar without meds (or in small doses). My man understands what I'll be going through, but he has a 7 y/o son who will not understand. The last thing in the world I want is for him to be a victim of the ***** I can be while not on meds.
Any advice or suggestions are appreciated.
meganx72790 replied: "I'm bi-polar!
I took lithium and lamictal
I had to be taken off of them as soon as i found out!
My doctor told me to get off of the ASAP!
it sucks the first month because of withdrawls.
I was very moody, and like a emotional timebomb
afterwards, I felt better than I did before I had taken them."
Bipolar Disorder...Questions? I'm new to this mental illness stuff, and I'm concerned about my diagnosis. To start, I'll give a bit of background. I was in a relationship for over a year "first love/fairy tale blah blah" and the guy cheated on me. I became depressed but didn't know it because I had never been depressed before. I began to randomly start crying and finally went to the doctor. I was put on an Celexa which worked great minus a 3month side effect (slept constantly), and then I began to want sex a lot and became irritable. I went to the doc to get the medicine adjusted and was then told i have Bipolar disorder type 2. He said that the antidepressant commonly reveals the disorder in people. After some switching up on meds and doses steadily increased, I'm now on Lamictal 150mg, and Welbutrin 150mg twice daily. I've been fine for quite sometime. But recently I'm having issues again. Can't sleep, panic attacks, irritability, and depression. I know it sounds like Bipolar but more information....I'm an extremely stressed individual. Full time student (18 credit hours) Chem major, Resident Adviser, I've got huge debts, and my hours were cut at my job. I don't know if I'm just unhealthy because of my stress load or if I really am bipolar...if I am why aren't the meds working?? I've been on them for 3 months now and have been okay. But now with exams coming up I'm a mess.
Is there anyone that can give me any insight on this...especially people with bipolar disorder.
Are you taking similar meds???
How are they working for you??
Does stress cause the disorder to flair up?
phillip b replied: "masses of insight
resd on
There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England and much of the western world is this
, all treatment recommended by the doctors should be tested and approved and quite rightly so.
Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments?
By far the biggest source is the drug companies.
So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more right, you could not be more wrong.
By and large only and I mean only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined.
Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people.
So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved or even looked at .
and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital.
You wont hear a word about them from your doctor in the main
Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life.
This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies
they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it.
Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit.
Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher, do you clearly understand that
in the main he is told what to prescribe . he does not even have the time often to look at research.
In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing simple supplements. They are in a difficult position in a way many would like to prescribe many different therapies but many feel they cannot for action could be taken against them.
This does not help you does it though.
In 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a fact
So Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs.
Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies.
Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices.has he mentioned detoxing , reiki, massage, colonics, enemas, sweat baths , accupuncture, tai chi, yoga, hypnosis.not to mention castor oil packs epsum salt packs etc etc.
Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc.
Has he ever recommended a detox ..
All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials.
As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, and is criminally negligent
Until the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being ive. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad.
What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isnt something more natural better.
Moving on to a more positive note .One of the biggest problems we see when giving this material is that a lot of people do not have good evaluation skills. They rely on a white coat, a hospital building, the sound of a persons voice to sway their thinking into accepting treatments when they are ill.
Like lambs they are taken down so called drug healing paths some of which will lead them into untold suffering .
Of course this is what some of these drug companies rely on the vast sums of money which can be generated are enormous.
So as the wise among you will see a little investment in time over your health could be a very wise move indeed.
So what do we recommend ---well we get very beneficial results doing these therapies .i am writing a book on this subject but here is the general principles
Depression protocol
Hi well I do quite a bit of research and practice the art o"
Mismobismo!(Alan Partridge Aha!) replied: "I'm not convinced you are bi polar, the drug can actually have side effects that look like bi polar disorder and what you are feeling now may be a side effect induced state
Stress will make you feel unhappy and panicky
Get a review of all meds"
Sasha replied: "well im not bipolar but i do know about it because my boss went through something similar. He is a 47 year old man, he was fine untill his wife stole from him and left him, after that he started going through weird symptoms like being irritable, angry, impatient, and i know this first hand because he took it out on me. well he went to see his doctor and he was diagnosed with being bipolar, his doctor prescribed his celexa and Lamictal...celexa was making his sooooo drowsy that he didnt even want to work, so his doctor switched him to lamictal and it seemed to make better but once it wore off he seemed to be worse. After struggling with several other meds and not finding a good solutiong he consulted with another doctor, and that doctor said he was not bipolar and that his previous doctor had misdiagnosed him. he told my boss that it is natural for someone to go through all these symptoms after what happened with him, and he said that having to work all the time made it worse. well i dont want to make a book here but my advise to you is to seek another doctor for another opinion, to see if you really are bipolar. You might just be extremely afected by what happened to you, some people handle stress and betrayal stronger than others, and some people have a harder time letting something go. regardless good luck :)"
sandra c replied: "My husband is bipolar and on meds. We found some great books on it that taught us a lot about bipolar disorder. By the way, this is a DISORDER,you are NOT mentally ill. It just means your brain does not handle stresses as well as another brain would. We are all different. Yes,extra stress will increase the problems of bipolar and you are under some major ones. Since you don't seem to have time to exercise, try to turn your brain to thinking of things that do calm you down such as looking at the stars at night,winning the lottery(ha ha) or just thinking of something funny. It CAN work.Also,see your doctor about maybe increasing or changing your meds. Go to a bookstore and get some good books on bipolar.Living with bipolar disorder" is a good one.Take a walk when you can,and at work,take a breath when you can and laugh with your customers. It is great for them and you. Good luck and great health. By the way,most important, "Don't let the stress control you,you control the stress!""
ros replied: "Hi Adam,
If you truly have BiPolar its because someone has attributed you with certain behavioural traits - and maybe you were diagnosed by blood tests which gave you the classical indicators.
However, you are still like everyone else. You have stresses, sadness, happiness just like the mainstream. Its better for you if you don't push the boundaries to extremes - and yet there are many famous bi-polars in history that have achieved great things because of their determined personalities.
See how you feel after the exams. Most people with bipolar don't have a worldly physical reason for their mood swings.
Good Luck in the exams!"
Cassie T replied: "I am not only any medications. I take Omega-3 every day though, which you can buy in the vitamin isle, and I find it does me a lot of good. They're only starting to do research on it, but it has a lot of potential benefits for people with depression and bipolar (obviously it may or may not help for you). Since I started taking it, I feel better than I have in years.
Stress is a major factor for me. Negative stress (relationship problems, moving, medical issues, etc) tends to make me depressive obviously. But positive stress (I have a very fast-paced job that I enjoy) can make me manic if I don't make time to relax myself. I tend to get caught up in the rush, and I can get pretty wacked out pretty fast.
You may also notice you have mood shifts according to the season, or in certain patterns. I would recommend keeping a mood chart so you can try to identify any trends in your moods.
For me, a combination of diet, exercise, writing, self-awareness, and therapy in times of crisis keeps my life pretty much in order. I still experience mania and depression, but I ask for the help I need early on, which prevents it from getting as bad as it did when I was younger. I also try to channel my moods creatively, which gives me a positive outlet and helps me learn from my experiences.
I am not closed to the idea of medication if I should need it, but I want to avoid putting that stuff in my body if I can."
Jenny replied: "i used to take lamictal, but i had to stop because it made me itchy (one of the side effects). now i don't take any meds and i'm off the wall.
stress definitely caused more mood swings (screaming, crying, cutting, then depression)."
whatsianyway replied: "I have a mild case of bipolar disorder. I'm on Lamictal, and it does help me. The thing is, it's not a cure-all. Every time something stressful happens, my life is a roller-coaster. I'm learning to take on less responsibility and to tell people "no, I just can't do it now" without feeling like I'm letting everyone down. Because the truth is, you have to know for yourself how much you can handle. Sounds like what triggered your disorder was a ton of stress, and you're keeping a pretty stressful schedule. Obviously, a lot of this can be contributed to the stress level and you should think about cutting down wherever possible.
On the other hand, just because stress is a factor doesn't mean you got the wrong diagnosis. I felt that way myself, but then I had really "quiet" times, when there wasn't much going on in my life, and I'd curl up and cry, stay in bed all day... I wasted my vacations a lot that way. So yeah, stress aggravates the situation, but the situation is there."
gardensallday replied: "You may or may not have bipolar - just because you got mild mania from an antidepressant doesn't mean you have bipolar - it means you got mild mania from an antidepressant. I would suggest a second opinion.
It sounds to me like you are under too much stress and your meds still are working, or are unneeded because you don't have bipolar. I think you need to have your doc fit you in to his schedule and see if you can increase your dosage to 200 mg of lamictal or maybe a bit more just in case. If you do have bipolar, it will take you a long time to figure out how YOUR bipolar is - there are many genes that cause it, in combo, and it appears that everyone gets bipolar in a unique way. If there are other family members with mental illnesses, that makes it more likely it is bipolar (bipolar IS a mental illness, I dunno what that other person was saying there).
For me, what happened was, I didn't get diagnosed, the bipolar steadily got worse, but I thought it was depression & PTSD from sex abuse I suffered as a girl. I ended up being disabled, after a few years in a PhD geophysics program. The drugs have not really helped me thru the years. My psychiatrist swears up and down that is rare, however, that almost all patients get significant relief eventually. Lamictal is the #1 choice for bipolar predominated by depressions, lithium is for pure manias, and depakote for mixed moods (agitated depressions). Most people add on other drugs.
Stress is a killer. If you really have bipolar, or any other mental illness, you need to learn to manage stress better than other people. Learn meditation (guided imagery is good, or progressive muscle relaxation). For now? Breathe slowly. Be very aware of your breathing, consciously slow it down. Do that for a couple of minutes (not so slowly you feel like you are drowning).
Bipolar is disabling for many people - if it does turn out that you have bipolar, you must avoid swing shifts and stressful jobs. You will want to keep options available in case you relapse a few times in your life (such as can't work for a few months). Some people can't work at all. You have to find out how it is for YOU, assuming you are diagnosed correctly. Only time will tell.
Good luck to you!"
How can I cope with bipolar II? I have suffered from depression on and off since I was about 13 (I'm 25 now). Just last year, I was diagnosed as bipolar II. The problem is that I seem to keep having mood swings, even though I'm being treated for it. I am currently taking Wellbutrin, Lamictal, and vitamin D. I eat well, get plenty of sleep, and exercise 5 times a week. I have also tried several other antidepressants and fish oil.
Nothing seems to be working, and I'm really getting tired of feeling this way. The depression and anxiety are particularly bad. Sometimes I feel like I'll never get better (after all, I've been dealing with this for over 10 years). I feel like there's no one I can talk to. I'm in counseling, but I can only afford one session a month. My parents are tired of hearing about it, and I don't want to bother my friends with my problems when they have their own to deal with.
What should I do? Is there anyone out there who has experience with bipolar II and can give me some suggestions? I really would like to hear from a health professional, someone who has bipolar II, or someone who is close to someone with bipolar II. I could really use some ideas or even just some encouragement, because I just feel like it's all too much right now.
Beau Brown replied: "I have bipolar. I've had it for 7 years. I used to suffer from depression years ago (when I was 15) and I even tried to kill myself 3 times but failed obviously. I found the best way to cope is by talking about my problems to people around me family and friends. Keep in contact with your friends and family keep taking your medication. Don't come of the bipolar pills but when your ready you can come off anti depressants. I took anti depressants and I found they made me more violent. I used to be very violent and angry all the time and my schizophrenia I suffer from is worse then bipolar because I hear voices too. Try to get on the right meds with less side effects and try keeping yourself more occupied by working etc.. Working helps keep your mind off from it and just start there. These things just take time so start there and you have any more problems just let us know you can email me though me profile if you wish Ok."
spazzy replied: "i have bipolar 2 and have similar symptoms to you and what has helped me is the self help group i go to and still go to and now run. anybody that come will get real advise from people with bipolar and not the text book stuff from the professionals.
the group is run by the mdf bipolar organization ( ) who also do self management courses which help you manege bipolar your self, this course helped my immensely. hope this helps email if you want more info"
Recently Bipolar II, how do i deal with life? hi, just recently I was diagnosed as Bipolar after my 3yr long depression got so bad, i went to the hospital for suicidal thinking. Anyway, i now know what I have, i can stop hating myself for not being able to control my emotions. like my family would like me to do. so thats good. Other than that its been really hard for me to not get depressed about the fact that I have this illness and have to be so carefull everyday and ot live carefree like i used to. its exhausting to say the least. Currently I live with my family that sets me off contantly and am looking for places to live on my own. Just wondering if I'll ever get my old self back and if i'l feel stable again? i was put on Lamictal and currently upping my dose. Probaly will be put on others soon. Does anyone have any ways they deal with their bipolar and can i recover, with meds offcourse?
~~Birdy~~ replied: "It takes years to "get used" to the idea of being bipolar. There is also a lot of denial to go through and finally, acceptance.
You should feel stable again, but it will take a while. Be patient and stay positive.
I am on Lamictal and it works well for me, but I have Bipolar I so I have to take other meds as well. The worst thing I had to go through was not knowing what was happening to me, so now that you know, that is a real big step to recovery.
Good luck and God bless"
strongsister replied: "Wow! I think you are dealing very effectively considering that you are trying to digest this info about your mental state. You know what sets you off, and want to make life less stressful. Your 'old' self? As humans I don't believe we are stagnant. You are defining yourself right now by your illness. What I've found that helps is to remind myself what a trickster depression can be. It makes us forget that we can love, laugh, be social, enjoy just being. I let the depression run its course, but I also keep a close network of family, friends, and a great therapist and fiance. I know that Im lucky with all that stuff. But I would not wish the illness on my worst enemy. I also realize that because I have Bipolar, I am a better listener and friend to those who suffer. I bet you are too...we are just more compassionate when faced with adversity. I'm on Lamictal, and a few other meds, and I have some lovely, happy days...and then the dark ones. But the lovely ones come back. I assure you. Think about therapy. There are such broad spectrum's, but of course you need to air your worries. You have been diagnosed with a chronic condition, and you are grieving, and that makes perfect sense. I think you are pro-active. I've had it for over 13 years and its been a fight. But life is. You are doing well by figuring out what environments don't work for you. I can't be in a job that involves a hectic pace. It's too much. But I'm a singer lol. You will continue on your path to seek places of comfort. Only you can find those. I think you are treating yourself with dignity.
So all the best.
x"
peacelove replied: "God can help you if you let Him. You can have a personal relationship with God by saying the sinner's prayer below. God is our Creator, all-knowing, all-powerful, eternal, holy, love. God loves us and sent us His Son, Jesus Christ, so we can go to heaven if we know and follow Him. Forever means without end -- time on and on without death. Forever is what happens after we die. Either we go to heaven and be with God forever, or we go to hell which is very bad and painful forever. The good people who are saved believers in Jesus Christ go to heaven. The bad people go to hell. We need to know and follow God in this world to get to heaven in the next world. Jesus Christ, God's Son, is our bridge to God. Jesus died on the cross to cancel our sins. We need to accept Jesus into our life as our Lord and Savior forever to receive God's blessing and forgiveness plus go to heaven to be with God forever after we die. This is about being a born-again Christian. Faith in God is a gift from God. You can pray for faith in God. Just speak out and ask God for the faith to believe in Him and to follow Him. Some people find faith in God when they realize the beauty in the world is made by God. Evolution can't explain the world's natural beauty, for example, the parks in the world, animals, flowers, peacocks, sunsets, butterflies, rainbows, etc. After you have your faith on, you can pray a sinner's prayer to be a born-again Christian. This prayer is very important and should be said with a sincere heart and faith in God. This is the prayer: "Dear God, I know that I am a sinner and that Jesus Christ is the sacrifice for our sins. I have done the following sins (state these out) and I pray to discontinue these sins. I pray to receive Jesus Christ into my life as my Lord and Savior forever. In Jesus' name, amen." You could find a Christian church and try it out. I'm Lutheran and I like the Baptist churches. Some churches do a weekly Bible study group and these can be a fun way to make friends and learn about God's will for your life. God bless."
butterflyboy replied: "many people out there have bipolar and live normal lives some are married no one would know they were bipolar their condition is clinically in recession controlled by the medication they tack for the person with that condition some times there is a stigma attached to it.i would say try to avoid stress in your life and relaxation exercises really do help just live your life have as much fun as you can and dont focus on it to much.at the end of the day you are a human being not a second class citizen."
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